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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://travel.booklocker.com/2009/02/03/drop-it-all-and-teach-english/comment-page-1/#comment-146392</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Greg. And yes, Susan&#039;s book is more slanted to those in the UK, while the one you mentioned is geared more to those on this side of the ocean. Outside of Europe, however, it doesn&#039;t matter much where you are from. Asians prefer an American accent it seems, but they&#039;ll still hire a Brit or an Aussie if there&#039;s an opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg. And yes, Susan&#8217;s book is more slanted to those in the UK, while the one you mentioned is geared more to those on this side of the ocean. Outside of Europe, however, it doesn&#8217;t matter much where you are from. Asians prefer an American accent it seems, but they&#8217;ll still hire a Brit or an Aussie if there&#8217;s an opening.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Hubbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Hubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Tim. There are as many experiences as there are people, so I do suggest reading student participant reports and reports from those experienced in the field before making any decision. After all, the Internet was created as a research tool and no one person has all the precise answers given the location you wish to teach, your specific ambition, the required certificates for a given country, and other factors. We have been receiving an extraordinary amount of submissions of late by people who are leaving the country in search of jobs overseas--and most of these authors find jobs teaching English initially or for the duration of their travels or careers.

Finally, Susan Griffith&#039;s book is a very fine resource which has stood the test of time, as is &quot;Teaching English Overseas: A Job Guide for Americans and Canadians by Jeff Mohamed,&quot; host of English International, www.english-international.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Tim. There are as many experiences as there are people, so I do suggest reading student participant reports and reports from those experienced in the field before making any decision. After all, the Internet was created as a research tool and no one person has all the precise answers given the location you wish to teach, your specific ambition, the required certificates for a given country, and other factors. We have been receiving an extraordinary amount of submissions of late by people who are leaving the country in search of jobs overseas&#8211;and most of these authors find jobs teaching English initially or for the duration of their travels or careers.</p>
<p>Finally, Susan Griffith&#8217;s book is a very fine resource which has stood the test of time, as is &#8220;Teaching English Overseas: A Job Guide for Americans and Canadians by Jeff Mohamed,&#8221; host of English International, <a href="http://www.english-international.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.english-international.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Thea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of fantastic information on this blog, as someone who is about to go travelling with a view to doing a CELTA course in Thailand it is great to get real people&#039;s opinions on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of fantastic information on this blog, as someone who is about to go travelling with a view to doing a CELTA course in Thailand it is great to get real people&#8217;s opinions on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had endless problems with American students when I was a teacher trainer on one of those &quot;less than but copying CELTA&quot; courses. I&#039;d only ever heard &quot;but I&#039;m a straight A student&quot; in the movies before I started that job, but I heard it at least once a month for the next few years from then on. It&#039;s a cultural difference. 

In the UK, there is almost no such thing as a straight A student because of the way the level is set (or at least that was the way in my day, before &quot;grade inflation&quot;). I got about half As at 16, at that is about equivalent to a straight A American student, at a guess. Having a B in CELTA or equivalent marks you as an exceptional teacher, and sometimes the only difference between that and an A is that the student with the A got on a roll. When recruiting, I put much more importance on the difference between a B and a C than I did between a B and an A. A school I used to work at pnly employed people with CELTA B or DELTA, but I&#039;ve never seen the equivalent with schools asking for an A. Etc.On our course, most teachers with TEFL experience Bs, and a few even just got Cs. 

Anyway, we all got so tired of that particular misunderstanding that the organisation changed an A to &quot;merit&quot; (or &quot;distinction&quot;, can&#039;t remember) to make it seem more exceptional. Kinda worked, maybe Cambridge would do the same too if it wasn&#039;t so UK-centric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had endless problems with American students when I was a teacher trainer on one of those &#8220;less than but copying CELTA&#8221; courses. I&#8217;d only ever heard &#8220;but I&#8217;m a straight A student&#8221; in the movies before I started that job, but I heard it at least once a month for the next few years from then on. It&#8217;s a cultural difference. </p>
<p>In the UK, there is almost no such thing as a straight A student because of the way the level is set (or at least that was the way in my day, before &#8220;grade inflation&#8221;). I got about half As at 16, at that is about equivalent to a straight A American student, at a guess. Having a B in CELTA or equivalent marks you as an exceptional teacher, and sometimes the only difference between that and an A is that the student with the A got on a roll. When recruiting, I put much more importance on the difference between a B and a C than I did between a B and an A. A school I used to work at pnly employed people with CELTA B or DELTA, but I&#8217;ve never seen the equivalent with schools asking for an A. Etc.On our course, most teachers with TEFL experience Bs, and a few even just got Cs. </p>
<p>Anyway, we all got so tired of that particular misunderstanding that the organisation changed an A to &#8220;merit&#8221; (or &#8220;distinction&#8221;, can&#8217;t remember) to make it seem more exceptional. Kinda worked, maybe Cambridge would do the same too if it wasn&#8217;t so UK-centric.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be warned, I took the CELTA course, and was so turned off by the process, I never taught. CELTA has the most screwed up grading system, it encourages what is called grade rationing. Most students get a pass in the course and the number of Fs and As is about 2% each, and a lot of pressure is put on the teachers to pass everyone, but nothing else. So if you&#039;re a high achiever, don&#039;t expect any amount of effort will get you anything but a passing grade because the teachers can&#039;t afford to hand out more than two As for every hundred students. That&#039;s like one A for every 4 classes. 
Before CELTA I had already taught on the college level and received accolades for my teaching and I have an advanced degree in English and little but As in all my education. There was another student in my class, who was a former department chair, who, like me, was also trying to update his skills, and he was brilliant in every way--great command of the subject, amazing classroom skills, presence, etc. He didn&#039;t get an A either. Take CELTA, just don&#039;t get your hopes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be warned, I took the CELTA course, and was so turned off by the process, I never taught. CELTA has the most screwed up grading system, it encourages what is called grade rationing. Most students get a pass in the course and the number of Fs and As is about 2% each, and a lot of pressure is put on the teachers to pass everyone, but nothing else. So if you&#8217;re a high achiever, don&#8217;t expect any amount of effort will get you anything but a passing grade because the teachers can&#8217;t afford to hand out more than two As for every hundred students. That&#8217;s like one A for every 4 classes.<br />
Before CELTA I had already taught on the college level and received accolades for my teaching and I have an advanced degree in English and little but As in all my education. There was another student in my class, who was a former department chair, who, like me, was also trying to update his skills, and he was brilliant in every way&#8211;great command of the subject, amazing classroom skills, presence, etc. He didn&#8217;t get an A either. Take CELTA, just don&#8217;t get your hopes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim

Didn&#039;t spot the (non)disclosure policy before, but you do put it very well. As you mentioned my blog, here is mine as it stands:
- TEFL.net is not my site, just the TEFLtastic blog
- I get zero money from the blog. If anyone has ever clicked on the Google ads, that went to the site owner. However, people who have read the blog have offered me work doing pre-publication reviewing of materials etc, and that is half the reason I started it. I think you&#039;d have to be crazy to blog once a day without something to gain from it personally. I have never taken money for recommending something to anyone, but I&#039;ve never needed the money and I have other ways of making my blog worthwhile financially, so I don&#039;t judge other people who do. 

In this case, I still think you could&#039;ve done it better, maybe:

&quot;Again, most people find it is best to get one of the two world-recognized ESL certificates, CELTA or Trinity Cert TESOL, if you want to be secure in finding a position with decent pay. Here’s another one worth checking out: Get paid to travel through TEFL International! (sponsored link)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t spot the (non)disclosure policy before, but you do put it very well. As you mentioned my blog, here is mine as it stands:<br />
- TEFL.net is not my site, just the TEFLtastic blog<br />
- I get zero money from the blog. If anyone has ever clicked on the Google ads, that went to the site owner. However, people who have read the blog have offered me work doing pre-publication reviewing of materials etc, and that is half the reason I started it. I think you&#8217;d have to be crazy to blog once a day without something to gain from it personally. I have never taken money for recommending something to anyone, but I&#8217;ve never needed the money and I have other ways of making my blog worthwhile financially, so I don&#8217;t judge other people who do. </p>
<p>In this case, I still think you could&#8217;ve done it better, maybe:</p>
<p>&#8220;Again, most people find it is best to get one of the two world-recognized ESL certificates, CELTA or Trinity Cert TESOL, if you want to be secure in finding a position with decent pay. Here’s another one worth checking out: Get paid to travel through TEFL International! (sponsored link)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, you appear to run a TEFL site that is mainly an ad vehicle, so who is not being straightforward? If I made a note of it every time I linked to a commercial site where I have an affiliate relationship (including Amazon, the link at the top) it would be really annoying. But for anyone who cares, here is my (non)&lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.booklocker.com/2006/12/28/my-clear-as-mud-disclosure-policy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disclosure policy&lt;/a&gt;. As I&#039;ve stressed multiple times in different ways already, anyone who reads this and wants to teach abroad should do their homework. &#039;Nuff said. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, you appear to run a TEFL site that is mainly an ad vehicle, so who is not being straightforward? If I made a note of it every time I linked to a commercial site where I have an affiliate relationship (including Amazon, the link at the top) it would be really annoying. But for anyone who cares, here is my (non)<a href="http://travel.booklocker.com/2006/12/28/my-clear-as-mud-disclosure-policy/" rel="nofollow">disclosure policy</a>. As I&#8217;ve stressed multiple times in different ways already, anyone who reads this and wants to teach abroad should do their homework. &#8216;Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for great advice.  Research on this subject has been confusing and I wish I would&#039;ve come here first as I would&#039;ve saved heaps of time before I finally found what I considered a good situation with my limited knowledge.  Now I have confidence about deciding on booking my CELTA course in Thailand for next year at this time.  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for great advice.  Research on this subject has been confusing and I wish I would&#8217;ve come here first as I would&#8217;ve saved heaps of time before I finally found what I considered a good situation with my limited knowledge.  Now I have confidence about deciding on booking my CELTA course in Thailand for next year at this time.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

I think the most important thing you&#039;ve mentioned is to do your research. I got a CELTA in Rome from International House in 2004, and it was a great experience. Before I went, I spent months researching online, reading a book called &quot;Taking a Gap Year&quot; (also by Susan Griffith), and emailing schools to learn more about their programs. I agree with you that each certificate has its place - it depends on where you plan to teach and what you&#039;re looking to get out of the whole experience. CELTAs are recognized everywhere, and are taken quite seriously, but for someone who just wants to do six months to a year of teaching, a TEFL might do just fine. Fulbright teaching assistantships are another great option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I think the most important thing you&#8217;ve mentioned is to do your research. I got a CELTA in Rome from International House in 2004, and it was a great experience. Before I went, I spent months researching online, reading a book called &#8220;Taking a Gap Year&#8221; (also by Susan Griffith), and emailing schools to learn more about their programs. I agree with you that each certificate has its place &#8211; it depends on where you plan to teach and what you&#8217;re looking to get out of the whole experience. CELTAs are recognized everywhere, and are taken quite seriously, but for someone who just wants to do six months to a year of teaching, a TEFL might do just fine. Fulbright teaching assistantships are another great option.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim

Good advice again, which again makes it a shame that you have recommended a course at the end of your piece that you obviously don&#039;t know much about. It&#039;s obvious that you get paid for sending people to the TI site (hover over the link and see what address comes up) and I have nothing against people being paid to write about TEFL, so I think you could&#039;ve been a little more straightforward about it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim</p>
<p>Good advice again, which again makes it a shame that you have recommended a course at the end of your piece that you obviously don&#8217;t know much about. It&#8217;s obvious that you get paid for sending people to the TI site (hover over the link and see what address comes up) and I have nothing against people being paid to write about TEFL, so I think you could&#8217;ve been a little more straightforward about it</p>
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